GRRM Publisher Responds to The Winds of Winter Leak — and Hope Just Spiked for Fans
Fifteen years after the last A Song of Ice and Fire novel, new buzz suggests George R.R. Martin may at last be closing in on The Winds of Winter — long after Game of Thrones wrapped and two spinoffs took flight, with more in the pipeline.
Every few months, the internet decides The Winds of Winter is secretly finished and about to drop. And every few months, reality shows up with a bucket of ice water. We just hit that cycle again.
The new rumor that set everyone off
A post on 4Chan claimed someone at publisher Bantam Spectra said Winds was done, would be announced at San Diego Comic-Con, and would hit shelves in the fall. It went viral on social media because of course it did. After 15 years since the fifth A Song of Ice and Fire book, people are starving. In that time Game of Thrones ran eight seasons, spun off two TV shows (with more brewing), and there are whispers of a movie. Meanwhile, George R.R. Martin has been busy with Fire & Blood and a bunch of film/TV work. But the question people actually care about is still the same: where is Winds?
The part where the publisher weighs in
Bantam actually responded to the rumor, which is not their usual move. They told EW:
"The online chatter you are seeing regarding a supposed leak is false."
That should be the end of it, but fans being fans, the denial weirdly boosted hope for some. The logic: the post seemed obviously fake, so why bother swatting it down unless there is something going on behind the curtain? Cue jokes about loading up on hopium and side-eyes about why they are suddenly debunking a random 4Chan thread after ignoring a decade of similar noise.
So... is the book actually close?
- Martin’s own update in January, via The Hollywood Reporter, did not sound close. He said he still has other writing commitments (more Dunk and Egg, another Fire & Blood) and that while Winds is the priority, sometimes he is just not in the mood for it, and he is "so far behind on everything."
- He expects Winds to be the longest book in the series by a wide margin. He has previously said he has around 1,100–1,200 manuscript pages done, with a target of roughly 1,500–1,600 pages, if not more.
- The scope is monstrous: resolving Jon Snow’s resurrection, getting Daenerys out of the Dothraki detour back to Meereen and, presumably, finally toward Westeros, introducing the Young Griff/Aegon Targaryen wrinkle if and when she gets there, escalating the Others, and wrangling dozens of other character threads. It is the penultimate book, so everything has to start converging.
- Complication nobody loves to talk about: Game of Thrones already delivered an ending. Even if the books hit some of the same broad beats, the show’s backlash makes that path trickier to navigate.
Where this leaves us
The romantic version is that the publisher said something because plans are quietly in motion. The boring version (and the one that fits the facts) is that the rumor was nonsense and they stomped it before it metastasized.
Could Winds land this year? Maybe. 2027? Also maybe. Later? Unfortunately, still on the table. Martin does not owe anyone a rushed book, and there is zero sign he is about to dump a half-baked doorstop just to end the conversation. If and when we do get news, it is probably not going to originate on an anonymous message board.
And yes, after Winds there is still A Dream of Spring. One mountain at a time.